" [But I may not post them on CNP as CNP has it's own set of rules. Being a person who believes in hierarchy I respect the rules set by the moderators.]"........... I didn't really know that CNP had a set of rules Adithya, every different human can have a different vision of his approach. When I said multiple exposure or blending of two images to you, I kept two things in mind. Multiple exposure can be a in camera thing, well now I know that it's for nikon users only, but the same image and idea can be conceived by a canon user too. If he makes two images and then selects two different areas and combines them to create a single canvas, I would very much give credit to the photographer. The end result for me is due to his or her vision. But if a person uses a photoshop filter like paint or charcoal etc to create art that definitely would be digital art and will be beyond the scope of CNP. I do not think blending images can be beyond scope of CNP. If you talk to Ashwini, Shiv or Pramod, they will tell how photographers spend so much time to make multiple depth of field images and also use the hyperfocal distance to create amazing landscapes. Even photo stitching to create a pano is such a beautiful art. All these result from visualization, but converting an image to a painting by a filter is not a vision made in the field. I feel CNP is very open to ideas, at least to my understanding from my in depth discussions with Ganesh. There is a stupid rule by BBC for their contest which says one is allowed to make multiple exposure image but not allowed to change the frame
. Well for contests I can understand there can be guidelines due to various factors. CNP is more about a culture which promotes new vision, it does not have a syllabus with the moderators sitting there as head of the departments looking at how well people are adhering to the purity of the medium. Some moderators themselves might not agree to some images, their expressions and visions are the same as that of other members of the forum. Hence I feel there is no hierarchy here, if there is, then am afraid art will surely take a back seat. Till date, I have not seen them trying to tell anybody what is right or what is wrong, they might have just communicated whether they like an image or not and it is completely ok, isn't it ? I have myself too commented negatively on images which I felt lost balance in human-nature images and took a tilt towards human more. I am no moderator and neither would I want to be
. Come on Adithya, we are all trying create new visions here, the goal is not awards, the goal is not to get a 10 or 9 in the rating as well. It takes so many failures to develop a positive mind and by positive mind I mean a mind which does not think there are restrictions imposed on him or her. I think my suggestion to you about creating two shots with warm and cool color temperature and then selectively cut out portions and stitch them very well lies within photographic purity if I may call it. What are you distorting here ? Nothing I guess, but giving shape to imagination exploiting different steps of photography. Digital art is a very different subject and I do not have much idea about it just because I have never spent time on it, but of course you are 100% correct, it arises from vision. Since its a different subject it is out of scope of CNP perhaps ( you have to check with the mods about it ) but blending and multiple exposure is not. Remember that lovely image by Shankar Kiragi in Kodachadri ? The leaves of the tree right on top of his head and he created it so casually while joking and chatting with us, how can that be digital art. He would have made it with a film camera too
. Many a times I have heard people saying digital vs film, I only tell them heyy, it's not a war out there man. It's nothing like digital is allowing what could not be done during film days. Think of the processing called SOLARIZATION, that was so popular during film days and so well appreciated, if somebody does it now to his file, it would be called digital art. In fact things have got tougher and not easier in my opinion. People have become very judgmental. Two good things with digital are that more images can be shared and the CF card can be reused
, what else has changed ? Nothing. If someone thinks that selecting a preset of silver efex pro will make an excellent black and white image, then there is something very wrong with such thinking. One still needs to understand the use of red, blue and green filters while making a good black and white conversion, yes, the hands do not get wet now, the studio does not get messy. Rest is all the same. Professionals always used to make multiple frames of the same shot keeping conditions similar, just for the fact that if one negative gets spoiled and does not provide the desired result, then the next same slide or negative would help to achieve that. We get to work on the RAW file from the scratch, but the ideas remain the same, only resources and some procedures have changed. Don't you agree ?
Sacha is a very good example, he knows or visualizes how he wants his canvas to look finally, accordingly he exploits the camera use and the processing support. His images though look so different are perfect photographic end results. Let us not impose too much on ourselves Adithya
, we know what is right and what is wrong, so honesty and satisfaction is in our reach. Hope I could explain my thoughts more clearly.....