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Commentby Nilanjan Das on Mon Oct 08, 2012 3:15 pm

I liked this a lot RD....I was just thinking if this image was made in a pool of moving water, may be going a little slower to capture the movement of those green plants might have looked interesting. I know it might be easy to say, probably not so easy to pull it off...

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Commentby Ganesh H Shankar on Mon Oct 08, 2012 9:39 pm

RD, for me the "Art of Clutter" works better when there is a "hidden harmony" which I don't see here in this image - an honest view though.

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Commentby dinesh.ramarao on Tue Oct 09, 2012 8:39 am

Ganesh: Most of the times it doesnot work, this is one of them. I appreciate your openion. It will be interesting to know your idea of "hidden harmony" though.
Nilanjan: Moving water, swaying plants were there, my execution was bad ... next time, they are resident anyway :)
-RD

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Commentby Ganesh H Shankar on Tue Oct 09, 2012 9:20 am

RD, here are my thoughts -

Let me take a few of "Art of Clutter" compositions of yours -

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While "Clutter" at micro level, to me this has a "soul". Those micro clutters seem to create a "harmony" at macro level. It is very difficult to pin-point the exact reason why it is appealing to me but I clearly "feel" art in this above composition.

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This is one of my favorite of yours on the series and a perfect example for hidden harmony. At individual levels those branches and twigs may be clutter. But there is a harmonious blend of lines and shapes.

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While each little branch is a clutter, they all line up and create a harmony - more so in round dark silhouettes.

When it comes to "Art of Clutters" I strongly believe in George Miller's observations in cognitive psychology - The Magical Number Seven, Plus or Minus Two.

To sum up my thoughts - (I think) in an effective "Art of Clutter" composition all "clutters" should finally reduce to "Seven Plus or Minus Two" else it may not "visually conclude".
Such reduction to "Seven Plus or Minus Two" can again be conceptual or abstract which takes such compositions more towards art compared to physical reductions of the "clutters" in a composition which might take it more towards a "beautiful composition". I see such a "conceptual reduction of the clutter" in the first of three compositions above.

Would love to know your thoughts..

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Commentby dinesh.ramarao on Tue Oct 09, 2012 9:46 am

Ganesh:
While i knew about 7+/-2, i would discount that relation here and would like to keep art and math (rather science?) farther and farther. I guess we have enough topics to discuss next time we meet.
-RD

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Commentby Ganesh H Shankar on Tue Oct 09, 2012 9:54 am

RD, it is not math, it is cognitive psychology :) Sure a open topic for discussion - next time when we meet :)

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Commentby dinesh.ramarao on Tue Oct 09, 2012 10:43 am

Ganesh: Yes it is psychology, a science again by larger definition. I discount 7+-2 cognitive psychology becasue it 'discounts' internal mental states. Such discussions are best over a drink, be it coffee or single malts :)
-RD

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