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A Peek into His World...
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Commentby Nilanjan Das on Wed Feb 06, 2013 11:00 pm

This is beautifully executed and processed Abhisek. Tones and defocus etc are working well but those are the physical aspects of the image. What I love most in this image is the casualness, the presence of a carelessly free roaming life form. Perhaps a kind of an image where the viewer does not even wish to know what bird is this, or what is it doing etc. The image in a very subtle way way speaks of presence of life. I enjoyed it thoroughly. I guess these are the impressions in our mind which take us back to nature again and again. Thanks for sharing .

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Commentby kiran_sham on Thu Feb 07, 2013 1:55 am

Buddy, this is the best one from the whole series... I just loved every pixel of this one.. I am not at all good when it comes to putting expressions and emotions into words but Dada has done a wonderful job in saying what I too felt.. absolutely fantastic work!!

Commentby neelu on Thu Feb 07, 2013 3:16 pm

its a evocative , moody image, a very defined style of ' defocused ', and monotone conversion, which seemed to have been mastered well.
i particularly liked the composition, and relationship of the main element , the bird , with the edge of the frame. very intriguing.

this seems to be a favored stylistic treatment, raises a question to my mind...."does repeating a style consistently...reinforce and strengthen that style, making it your signature, in a veiwers mind?? or does it desensitize,the viewer to that particular style?
i have oft been grappling with this myself, when i was trying to experiment with "motion", in a number of ways.. would love to know your veiws...and others too.



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Commentby Nilanjan Das on Fri Feb 08, 2013 12:24 am

I am indeed interested to go through Abhisek's reply on Neelu's comment :-). Why does a particular style influence us so much ? What does it say to us ? What is the element of defocus narrating here Abhisek...wish to listen to your part of the story :-). Thanks Neelu for asking...
Questions regarding the images, discussing reasons why images are working or not working in our minds do not hurt the image or the creator. Not asking, not discussing does. I sincerely hope members ask more and more questions and just do not wait till someone else comments. It is easy to say the image is like a painting, woww, so beautiful etc. But in order to help the image grow , it is indeed so important to get into shoulder rubbing discussions if necessary. Do not think your image is alive because am silent, the image gets life only when we are vocal. One can not agree at all with an image, plz share why you disagree. If the contributor gets hurt by that, then he or she needs to learn how to live with it. If you speak out, then only I know my image interests you. Speak honestly, there is no compulsion to think that you have a job at hand to please others, plz do not see how many have liked the image prior to you. We all can ask questions with love and answer with love keeping our convictions intact. Art is not a matter of agreement, it is about space and through discussions, disagreements we will make those images live for ever. If somebody answers back roughly to you for asking questions, it only reflects the failure of the person. He retaliates because he thinks he has nothing to learn and knows everything :-). Do not be afraid of that...repeat yourself again and ask the same question again. :-). HONESTY IS A RESPONSIBILITY AND NOT A CHOICE !!! Your questions,, suggestions, discussions etc will help more than your meaningless silence. Plz do not be selfish and expect comments in your images which make you feel complacent, while you only offer silence. We will ask questions and still be best friends :-).
Abhisek, go ahead, stand by your image, your concept and ideas and convictions and thank Neelu for asking you such a beautiful question. Thanks Neelu once again.

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Commentby Ganesh H Shankar on Fri Feb 08, 2013 7:17 am

I love the sophistication and processing - just excellent Abhisek. The question Neelu asked is a very pertinent one. It applies to several of us in the group. After my last Gujarat/Corbett series there are several of my own images have similar look and feel. In that sense we all owe Neelu a reply ! The lines below are unrelated to this posted image, just a related thought about my own images, replying Neelu.

I did ponder over this aspect in the past and have not come to a firm conclusion yet. While "changing the style for the sake of changing" itself can't be a goal in art, too much of "self copy" will be boring too after some time. If have to make portfolio of my images and if I classify them into different themes probably a theme with similarly processed ~10-15 images may be a pleasure to watch provided the next theme has different feel altogether. The whole book with similar looking 100 images will definitely be boring. Now, it becomes very complex - as a human my genes might have been coded in some way and I might respond better for some set of visuals. Should I force myself out of my core competency ? Will I fail if I attempt ? What if I fail ? So what ? As human being like anyone else I experience both sorrow and happiness. Can I only portray gloomy picture ? Is gloomy pictures are more important than happy ones ? Is it difficult to portray happiness as art ? If I can portray only gloomy feel is it because I never thought about portraying happiness ( check Rarindra's images) or am I limited by how my genes are coded ?

Lots of un-answered questions in mind - a deeper introspection is long due..

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Commentby AratiRao on Fri Feb 08, 2013 7:28 am

A fine image here Abhisek... probably the best in the blurred series :)

Nilanjan da brings up a good point of speaking up. i have been guilty of silence on several occasions and Da and I have been discussing that offline. No more.

I had the same question as Neelu, and am glad it has come up. Thanks neelu :) Every time i hear "signature" and i cringe. Does a signature mean "sameness?" a "predictability" if you will? Does it mean boring after a while? In life as well as in art are we in danger of a complacency of a "tried and tested" method that has worked before working for us again - do we have a reluctance, and apprehension to change? experiment?

personally i believe that forcing oneself out of the comfort zone even if for the sake of it itself, is worth it. you never know what might come of it. experimenting and changing is one of the greatest refreshers out there - like the seasons and emotions ... no two are alike.

If we create purely by infusing current emotions and letting its utter honesty drive our art, can we stay versatile?

thanks for throwing this up Neelu. i would love to see what transpires here.

A

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Commentby Ganesh H Shankar on Fri Feb 08, 2013 8:17 am

Incidentally we had a related discussion here six months months back.

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Commentby Nilanjan Das on Fri Feb 08, 2013 9:13 am

Good one you found out Ganshi...:-). I am more or less convinced now that having a signature or a few signatures defines me or you or Neelu. It is just a way we use to express ourselves, but what lies inside the image,the stories unfolded are so personal. If am able to narrate that story or convey the emotion to the viewer, then I guess I would not be too worried about how I did it.
Ganshi, I think a person very deep in his mind or heart has a few expressions which unknowingly or even unintentionally get conveyed in his creations. I think this deep seeded emotion too plays a role when we try to connect to a place and make images accordingly. What scares me often is do I have a signature style of connecting to a place too ?? If I see a place with fallen trees , I connect immediately. But if I see where trees are full of flowers, lovely colors, lot of light, wildlife roaming boldly and deer not looking with shyness through the grass, I go away and try to look for what is scarred. Why do I do this ? Is it genes or an inner side in me which I suppress but it forces itself out through my images ?? Am really scared if the way I connect becomes a signature. Would love to know your thoughts on this...then Pamuk too writes books which do not show various emotions...those who have read Jhumpa Lahiri surely must have noticed how most of her works flow along the same direction. If our character gets imprinted on our images, should we not follow it ?Or consciously try to change it thinking that I must do something different every time I go somewhere ??

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Commentby neelu on Fri Feb 08, 2013 10:17 am

, Nilanjan, Ganesh, Arati..
thank you for the lovely views , this applies to all of us, charting our own journeys.
that being said, what i really think is important in my view is
AT WHAT POINT IN OUR LEARNING CURVE ARE WE , IN THIS CREATIVE PHOTOGRAPHY JOURNEY?? THIS BEING A UNIQUE NEW FORUM, A YOUNG FORUM,
some of us are in pursuit of technical expertise, experimenting,starting at the bottom, drawing inspiration from the masters, influences, styles,and consciously or unconciously imbibing some elements in our own experiments. in this important quest.. its imperative to try a technique, acheive excellence, have it in your bag of tricks, and then maybe hold on or discard it,and somewhere in this whole process....find your voice, your emotional expression( which may or may not be aided by writen expressions..due to ability or lack of it)

abhisek...am in awe of this style and visual artistry, your image is special in its emotional expression, i would love to have on my wall..the special technique, its a" trick" i dont have in my bag.. nor do i think i will be able to match in expressions, and inspite of all these cerebral discussions...im "itching" to try out this signature style, as a lot of other signature styles on this forum.i admit.



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Commentby Abhisek Majumdar on Fri Feb 08, 2013 10:47 am

I am a little orthodox in my views, so plz pardon me if it ruffles a few feathers here :) I am a firm believer of theory of excellence which requires any individual to spend at least 10,000 hours in any field before s/he can achieve excellence...so to that extent am not even really bothered about having or not having a signature because its a long journey and a few short lived successes or failures is only a learning experience... this discussion has become very heavy :) ...let me draw a simple simile to explain my thoughts and also disassociate ourselves from our work...

Sachin would have played the straight drive N number of times in the nets and then when the opportunity arises he wud still play it in the match...given that Sachin's game is almost at the level of art would we raise the question that he is repeating himself?? :) I would assume the answer is no...because that is the most apt application for the given opportunity...

So the question to ponder over I believe is are we being true to our emotional content and its expression to an external stimuli - the opportunity... as long as that is happening I would be very happy because I would know that I have been true to myself...

If in the process the viewer sees a signature or fails to see a signature that would probably not bother me till the time I am being able to create a connect in between the audience and the truthful expression of art...the attempt to create/refrain from creating a signature I believe is self limiting at both ends of spectrum... guess its blissful to be ignorant of self and keep an ear to our inner soul and listen to its calling...rest everything should fall in place :)

Would love to hear from others...

Commentby dinesh.ramarao on Fri Feb 08, 2013 1:10 pm

First, complements to your boldness than the image. While i may or may not enjoy this particular image, i would surely enjoy the journey you have already started, watching closely as a passer by.

"Signature" on a lighter note for me now (as in at this moment) is a drink :) i love the premium one :)
When you have it you are on high,
When you don't have it you need one,
When you have more than you can take, you will have it,
When you have it in abundance, you will reach the bottom, want to get out of it !

-RD



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Commentby neelu on Fri Feb 08, 2013 1:49 pm

Thank you all, for generously sharing your veiws on my question ... all those different responses..have given me a few insights, opened new doors and i want to climb back in through the windows ,into my comfort zone. !!!!!!!:):):)

abhisek...totally totally agree with your 10,000 hours..that im sure will stretch beyond...

Commentby trvikas on Fri Feb 08, 2013 3:35 pm

so many interesting discussions are going on here in CNP. Will take lot of time to understand the thoughts expressed recently here.

about the image, it feels like searching for inner-self...have to come back later to absorb the full feel. TFS

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Commentby Abhisek Majumdar on Fri Feb 08, 2013 3:51 pm

Irshad irshad ... kya baat hain RD :) am sure we will have more of your poetic skills in Corbett after a couple of "Signature" shots :)

Commentby Ganesh H Shankar on Fri Feb 08, 2013 4:30 pm

Nilanjan, on your question to me, (hey Abhisek, please bear with me !)

Am really scared if the way I connect becomes a signature. Would love to know your thoughts on this...then Pamuk too writes books which do not show various emotions...those who have read Jhumpa Lahiri surely must have noticed how most of her works flow along the same direction. If our character gets imprinted on our images, should we not follow it ?Or consciously try to change it thinking that I must do something different every time I go somewhere ??


I think our traits can show up and will show up. I think we discussed this in one our past threads (don't remember which one). The question I have now is, are our abilities limited to writing unconsciously auto biographies in the form of images (ie, unconsciously expressing what I am) or can 'we' remain outside our images and create characters ? Yes, some amount of 'me' will seep in those 'characters' however, can we get creative enough to go there ? In a novel an author can create all kinds of characters, some are her and some are not. Are we seeing any challenge to do so in our medium of choice ? Can't we portray others (as we see them) in our images? In other words creating different characters, why only us ?

Lots of questions in mind, probably easier to debate, making images amidst gypsies cris-crossing in between is tough though :)

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