Nature Immortalized




Ganesh H Shankar
Nature Immortalized
I think this is nature photography, do you agree?
Wed Aug 19, 2015 9:11 pm
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Commentby Raviprakash S S on Wed Aug 19, 2015 10:44 pm

Hmmm.. I do.. I am not sure if i have totally understood your visualization, but for me this picture depicts the current situation. Human overpowering nature :(


Commentby falakvasa on Thu Aug 20, 2015 12:14 am

This is beautiful. It makes me think of Schopenhauer's philosophy when he talks about 'world will' and how nature always finds a way to continue to exist; and that the death of a leaf is of no consequence for it is replaced by another. Similarly, the lives of humans are inconsequential for our essence always exists. He says, "Death is to a species what sleep is to an individual". The marks symbolize the ignorance of man for me, for an ignorant man strives for immortality and in his struggle, fails. All he can do is stain the truth, never become it. The leaf, due to its dearth of intellect, becomes truth. It is immortal because it does not fear death. It is immortal for it lacks the intellect we humans prize. It is immortal for it lives by the laws of nature.

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Commentby Rajkumar on Thu Aug 20, 2015 4:45 am

I agree this is nature photography. So do we now push the boundaries of nature photography and say if the "intent" and "message" is nature then it is nature photography. Not merely on content, object and subject. My answer is yes. Any thoughts?
On the pic I like the abstraction and the skeletal leaf and also liked interpretation by Falak. Thanks both

Art is about what is inside rather than what is outside

Commentby Ganesh H Shankar on Thu Aug 20, 2015 9:48 am

Ravi, I guess my comments below would clarify the thoughts further. I hope we will not need foot-prints like these to study a leaf in future like what we do with some of the extinct species today, used "immortal" in that sense.

if the "intent" and "message" is nature then it is nature photography. Not merely on content, object and subject. My answer is yes. Any thoughts?

Raj, these are exactly my thoughts too, intent/message decides its genre, not the physical subject.

Falak, interesting thoughts there. Though I have not studied/read Schopenhauer's philosophy I only hope its not too abstract and the author is not liberating himself and shifting to another frame of reference. I think death of a species may be inconsequential to creator of the species which is a very different view point altogether. I think we may be dealing with different philosophies here - creator's philosophy and our own, the lesser mortals of the mother earth. I think it quickly gets very complex and will need a long discussion :)

Ganesh H. Shankar
Wishing you best light,

Fine Art Nature Photography

Commentby falakvasa on Tue Aug 25, 2015 6:49 am

Ganesh - I may not have an answer to your question about the point of view he takes but I appreciate longer discussions more than short comments, and will take this opportunity to quote directly from the text to throw more light on what this image made me think of for quite some time.

"We then cast our glance forward far into the future, and try to picture to ourselves future generations with the millions of their individuals in the strange form of their customs and aspirations. Where are they now? Where is the abundant womb of that nothing which is pregnant with worlds, and which still conceals them, the coming generations? Would not the smiling and true answer to this be: where else could they be but there where alone the real always was and will be, namely in the present and its content?- hence with you, the deluded questioner, who in this mistaking of his own true nature is like the leaf on the tree. Fading in the autumn and about to fall, this leaf grieves over its own extinction, and will not be consoled by looking forward to the fresh green which will clothe the tree in spring, but says as a lament: "I am not these! These are quite different leaves!" Oh foolish leaf! Whither do you want to go? And whence are the others supposed to come? Where is the nothing, the abyss of which you fear? Know your own being, precisely that which is so filled with the thirst for existence; recognize it once more in the inner, mysterious, sprouting force of the tree." - The World as Will and Representation, book 4, "on death and its relation to the indestructibility of our inner nature"

I think this direct quote explains better what I wanted to say than my own words.

Commentby nirlep on Sat Sep 19, 2015 2:56 pm

While there's no doubt in my mind about the genre of the image I'm only thinking whether just the leaf and the floor texture was enough without the red stains...