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It was there... I too was there: Leaves
I have made some image in which, as the title suggests I don't have any strong reason behind making the images. Many are made just because I felt like.
I don't know whether these visuals make any sense, but a small effort ...
As always waiting for your views.
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Commentby Ganesh H Shankar on Sun Dec 09, 2012 9:38 am

I don't know whether these visuals make any sense

Tell us about your point of view. The world need not agree with you !!

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Commentby Adithya Biloor on Mon Dec 10, 2012 8:17 am

Ganesh,
At times I feel the necessity of absence of obvious meanings in an image.
Many of these images made just because I felt like. Most of them are bi products of some other images,. i.e. when I was searching something, something else compels me, like the oof leaves branches, openings etc. I clicked and framed them.

Some time back Nirlep told us about koans.
"koan which is "sort of mental spiritual riddle" with which budhist masters test their pupils. It could be an utterance or a sign on a board, groung, or simply movement of hand in air. The pupils then ascribe meanings to koan. Even the answer could be in form of a sign."
(My knowledge about Zen ends here. Forgive me if I am misinterpreting this.)
This is an attempt like that.

If I am not clear give me some more time.

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Commentby Ganesh H Shankar on Mon Dec 10, 2012 10:08 am

I think "obvious meaning" or "meaning" itself is not a necessity ( it may even be a new non obvious experience which results in standing in front of an image and wondering about it ). However the context of "I was doing something, the image is made during that time" does appear to weaken the base of the image. The fact related to "when" you made the image does not seem all that important. What is important is what the image alone means to you directly (without the reference to unrelated (to the image) context).

Just my 2c..

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Commentby Nilanjan Das on Mon Dec 10, 2012 11:23 am

Actually am completely at one with Ganesh here, surely images can be without obvious meanings...but even if the image is supposed to be only a result of your presence at a certain moment, as a viewer, I definitely looked for what grew inside you at that moment or even after you see the image as a Koan sign ?? There must be something which was in your mind and you saw that as a subject which interprets your mind, may not be directly representing a form,but may be a thought or a feeling or sensation.I would love to know as a viewer how to interpret this ?A state of blankness ? Take my case, am born in a Hindu family but I have no faith in any religion nor do I believe in gods or whatever. My sense of spirituality begins and ends with experiences and understanding of life, ...in my experience or through others experiences, the form may be music, literature or even art. It may be socio-political aspects or just whatever... You speak of a Koan master making a sign and then pupils ascribe meaning to it.... The meaning the pupil ascribes could be simply meaningless unless he makes the silent relation between him and the master interpretable . All am asking here is how does this image help in that interpretation ( on the basis of your narration ). Most abstract interpretations be it visual or any other form can be understood only if matters of experience can be expressed. This is true even for the pupil of the Koan master or when Orhan Pamuk admires snowfall thinking that it will shield and cover the shame of his favourite city in the purity of whiteness which has been lacking or is on the decline. Such a powerful expression gets immediately related due to an experience. Though I will never tell you how to create your art but my understanding of abstraction grossly varies with yours. However, I admire and respect your thoughts behind the explorations, may be today the visuals may look unrelated, may be our questions might appear irrelevant too, but am sure one day you will get close to what you have in mind....may be we will learn newer ways of such interpretations....to relate with belief is easier,but becomes tough for a non believer like me....best wishes.

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Commentby dinesh.ramarao on Mon Dec 10, 2012 12:41 pm

This set of images, your words, makes me think you are confused . ?
-RD

Commentby Adithya Biloor on Mon Dec 10, 2012 7:20 pm

Ganesh, exactly this is what I felt when I see the images through my viewfinder. New non obvious experience which results in standing I front an image and wondering about it

I wrote the situation when I made the image to give a hint of my state of mind.
As you know, there is a forest near by my home. Whenever I go there the presence of the forest itself gives a wonderful feeling. The forest ..it is there..calm and quite...why should search for an image ..Why shouldn't I try represent the calmness, emptiness of the forest? What is the meaning of this forest? The forest is there... I am there... Why should I expect something to happen between us? Why shouldn't I try to represent that silence between us?
Too much philosophical? or useless sentiments?...

Writing too much about our own images may make the image dilute, so I try to avoid writing about the image. But in this case unless I write my thoughts can't be elucidated.
I have tried to construct a suspense in these images. A layer... something looks happening....but nothing happens.... finally the image takes one to point zero... or takes one to infinity... or it is like a half written poem... scribbles in a writers notepad...
In this image there are layers of leaves... I first see the top left green leaf, then the lower..then the right one...then the yellow one... I anticipate for something...nothing unfolds... image just evaporates... yet compels me..

yes, it's too much... patting my own back... I know the image doesn't deserve this...

But I am in the journey ... Hope to make the images in my mind one day...

Doc, you know I wanted to add a line with this " this image is to Nilanjan for the difference we share with regard to abstracts." :) Your opinions have influenced me a lot with regard to abstracts. Now, I think simply labelling an image abstract becomes too much generalisation. I need to justify the image, at least to myself.

RD- confused? No, may be my images are confused... :)

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